After a violent death by an unknown force and a timely reanimation by the human supremacist organization Cerberus, Commander Shepard must assemble a new squad in the seedier side of the galaxy for a suicide mission in the second installment of the "Mass Effect" trilogy. Futhermore, Grunt, Zaeed, and Garrus are the three you want holding the line the most. Khalisah: But surely the human cost— Shepard: The Alliance lost eight cruisers. He died in the final stage of mission when Shepard and 2 of chosen team mates went to destroy human reaper. 1st game I didn't have Mordin's upgrade but on the 2nd I did. Mordin doesn't have to die! Don't base krogan redemption off of one good squad mate. She will be turned into a Phantom and encountered and killed in the Cerberus base; Tali: Wipe out the Quarians so Tali kills herself. Mordin died though since I used him on the door. If a disloyal Jack escorts the crew (however many you left alive), those crew will survive to ME3 at the cost of Jack's life. Ok I see why Mordin died he was not good for staying back. :/ You have to go get the crew straight away, even one mission will kill half of them. Let me tell you just how fucking shocked I was that I didn’t lose anyone. Log in to add games to your lists. Is this bug? Coins. Tali and the crew died. only for me to find out after i imported my character to ME3 that mordin died during the suicide mission. When it comes to the crew escort, there are three scenarios: No escort: The crew dies. He didn't think the Collectors would kill the crew so quickly, so he focused on what he classed high priority tasks (Mordin and Legion's loyalty quests) before he went to the relay. I remember restarting my suicide run in ME2 just because he died on my first try. He will sacrifice himself in ME3 so he will day anyway, unless Wrex and Eve are dead, then you can talk him over to not fix Genophage. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. CryptoThe first time I chose Tali, who died (shot in the stomach, twas horrible). Died on my end game? i have everyones loyalty and chose the best people for the individual jobs. Miranda lived but Jack died (because of that arguement, i lost jacks loyalty). If you choose an escort, they will die if they aren't loyal, but the crew will make it. The biotic escort is nothing too difficult. Zero Punctuation. For Mass Effect 2 on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Aww, damn. Immediate mission restart, sending Mordin on escort and everyone survived. ) For the final battle you can bring tech/biotics along if you feel confident in your ability to kill the final boss. You want an average of 2 points per character or better for them all to survive. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. By this point you are four squadmates down (Mordin, Tali, Thane, and Jack). He got shot in the face trying to shut the door. Mordin, Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Jack, Thane, Kasumi and Legion are not viable. . Business, Economics, and Finance. ReplyThane >Jack > Garrus >Legion >Grunt >Samara > Jacob > Mordin > Tali > Kasumi > Zaeed > Morinth. Leave Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed behind on the Hold the Line segment. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. For the Second Fireteam Leader. and realizing that Mordin was best used to escort hte survivors back. Rescuing Chakwas and Kelly, it makes sense he should escort them back as he can protect them and ensure they don't die of any injuries and also protect them from the swarms. Normandy Crew Escort: Mordin. Legion: Shoot him to stop him transmitting to the geth. Legion's was sad, too. The second time I chose Garrus, and he survived. Works like a charm. As is Anderson's "Proud of yoSo I just finished the game, and have of my crew ended up dying. Q&A. (Spoiler sort of)". If they are loyal, everyone survives. Miranda: Killed by Kia Leng. Mordin, Tali, Garrus, and Thane to my knowledge can be shot while. To prevent this the best thing to do probably is to send him on the escort at the beginning so he won't have the chance to dieBut yes, to be safe, its best to either bring (LOYAL) Mordin with you for the final fight, or leave him to escort the crew to safety. Columns. in my play-through i sent Tali through pipes as tech specialist, Miranda was always leading the secondary teams, Samara was holding barrier, and Zaeed got crew back to the ship. I always squeeze Arrival right between the abduction of the Normandy. Garrus died this time as well. What determines who dies, or is it just random? I wish it would have been Jack, because I hated her, but for some reason I got Mordin. The guide was great for me until the end where Mordin died. He was "present" at Hold the Line but was killed. Watching it shower the Krogans with the cure added hope to the pain I was already feeling watching Mordin die in the explosion while singing sadly. But I don't think everyone alive necessarily shows up in the cutscene so that's not necessarily inconsistent with your account. Escort: If you choose not to send an escort, he entire crew dies. It became almost second nature for players to have Mordin escort the Normandy crew back to the ship, which keeps him out of harm's way. 4 or more Missions/Assignments — The whole of the Normandy crew will perish apart from Dr. If he's loyal, you could send Mordin to escort the crew if you like, but if you leave your strongest fighters on the line, he should live even if you don't. Escort Survivors: Whoever you want, if they are loyal they survive otherwise they die, Mordin is the best one because he has the lowest survival score (you can figure out a score by what a person wears, Mordin and Jack are lowest, Garrus, Jacob and Grunt are highest) Kasumi, Tali, Mordin and Jack have the lowest scores (1 each if loyal, 0 if not) - So if for example you have all 4 of these holding the line and take two of your stronger crew with you to the final battle then that will obviously bring the average score down and 1 or more squadmates will die. Especially considering if Mordin died in 2, and got a funeral, all the other characters from 2 who died would need one. there was a brief shot of Mordin’s dead body, I guess he died guarding the door? I took Grunt and Jack with me into the final fight. Use Mordin for the crew escort. I reloaded and took him and. I was just saying over and over "honey, Mordin died!!" He thought a family member had died for long minutes until I started making sense again. . Send one of them back with the crew (Mordin is the most logical from a RP aspect) and that should be enough, but if you want to be extra sure take two of the others with you in the finale. That and the fact that for SOME REASON you HAVE to send Mordin with the crew in order to save everyone and him, less they/Mordin die. He's a veteran mercenary and former leader of a major gang. Garrus’ job is the weaponry. Keep Miranda as team leader, and the only reason Legion should die is because he isn't loyal so I'm not sure on that one. I saw a quick flash of what could have been him as everyone was running out of the base, but until it showed the coffin and didn't show Mordin in the final cut scene I honestly wasn't sure what happened. I maxed out the loyalty of the crew and upgraded the ship completely. Ignore what the other users are telling you about sending Mordin as the crew escort: Mordin is not uniquely qualified to escort the crew back nor is it necessary to guarantee his survival. That second line is really cool because it's foreshadowing for the best way to keep Mordin alive. I chose to leave Ash on virmire and Mordin died holding the line in the final mission, so his replacement died instead in ME3. For Mass Effect 2 on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "But. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. He died in the final stage of mission when Shepard and 2 of chosen team mates went to destroy human reaper. I love Mordin to pieces, and if you've never seen the alternative version of events (where Mordin died in ME2), then watch the videos of Padok curing the genophage. Escort Survivors: Whoever you want, if they are loyal they survive otherwise they die, Mordin is the best one because he has the lowest survival score (you can figure out a score by what a person wears, Mordin and Jack are lowest, Garrus, Jacob and Grunt are highest) The game establishes that while Mordin is a skilled STG operative, he's ultimately a doctor and therefore not suited to the frontline. I'm glad they did at least acknowledge Mordin, but i do find it kinda annoying how mostly unphased Shep seems about Mordin's death when it was the hardest moment in the entire trilogy for me as a player. If he's left behind in this team and they are not strong enough, he is the first one to die. And no escort means chakwas/surviving crew die. No casualties there. I maxed out the loyalty of the crew and upgraded the ship completely. [Edit] Ok, problem has been solved, thanks to everyone who helped. When Mordin went up to sacrifice himself after the run through the reaper, I just had to walk away from my computer adn get a drink. Alright, everyone reading this knows how to save everyone, upgrade, loyalty missions before Reaper IFF, wake Legion up before going to the Galaxy…Dead Miranda, unloyal Zaeed coupled with Mordin having the lowest defensive score and sending a tougher squadmate to escort the crew means he dies first. More people are likely to die in the separate squad if the squad's combat strength is low (a hidden score), which you can influence most by bringing a non-loyal grunt and zaeed with you to die - their combat strengths are highest. Mordin was my only casualty, but I wasn't sure he had even died until the final cut scene. What you needed to do (reload an earlier save if you can) was to select Mordin AS THE ESCORT for the Normandy crew after you rescue them. The best crew member to send here (since they’re not required elsewhere) is loyal Mordin. Funny thing is that I didnt even realized he had died, I just learned this during Mass Effect 3 when the characters started mentioning he was dead during the krogan arc. Everyone points to this chart, but earlier today I did the suicide mission according to the chart and Kasumi died. Reviews. The 2 additional squad members that I want to keep alive is Zaeed and Morinth because I can kill Zaeed in his loyalty mission. ) If you send Mordin back (or another who adds. He's also pretty tough so near certain to survive Hold the Line if there's a decent number of people left. He wasn't loyal though, so knew that was a strong possibility. Then Shepard looking at his coffin on Normandy. He was the. Putting Garrus or Miranda in charge of the second squad was a given, and choosing Samara's biotics to the test against the swarm made the most sense on instinct. All but Garrus, Mordin, Miranda and the crew Tali died when the reactor blew up Thane died when a girder fell on him Jack got blown up by an oculus Legion died in the vents Grunt was carried away by the seekers Jacob died escorting the crew back to the Normandy. Instead of being in awe at everything concluding on that. Crew survived, including Kelly. Thankfully she survived. . . I expected the first three to fall, but I was surprised when Garrus died - he was in my SQUAD because I was trying to keep him alive. Send a disloyal escort: The crew survives but the escort dies. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. The second time I tried I used Legion in vents, Garrus as second leader both times, Grunt as escort and. Shenyang, Emden, Jakarta, Cairo, Cape. Garrus handles both fire teams Kasumi or Mordin handles the escort. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. Chakwas will reprimand you. Mordin chirps cheerfully, then begins helping Miranda pack up the mods they’d ordered. Basically the entire crew of the Normandy can die in the final mission of Mass Effect 2, including Commander Shepard if you don’t play your cards right. Cheats. How did Mordin died? If he died on the Normandy, then it's probably some upgrade was missing. (He died because I. crew escort 1st time was grunt worked fine 2nd time was mordin also worked fine now the crew escort was mordin the second time cuz he died the first, in the cut scene the. New posts All threads Latest threads New posts Trending threads. Isaac brings Legion and Samara with him to fight the Reaper. Menu. Question here. If you send Mordin back with the crew to the ship and leave Garrus to hold the line you should be fine. In the suicide mission I let Kasumi die in the vents, Samara escorting the crew, and Jacob and Miranda at the Reaper baby. So, for mass effect 2, I made it an abundant priority to make sure every one of my squadmates was loyal. While everyone left behind for HTL got out in one piece, Mordin and Kasumi both died! In the end, my roster looked like this. i did everyones loyalty mission, and after the suicide mission, it stated that everyone lived and no one died. " - Page 2. An explanation is given here. I did exactly the same as you wrote and he still died. Even if they are not loyal, they still have a better 'Hold the Line' value than the other 9 companions. Mordin, Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Jack, Thane, Kasumi and Legion are not viable. Turns out only Miranda and Mordin died, Jacob and Samara lived. The exact same thing happened to me first try, Mordin dies, full paragon, full loyaties. -Kasumi died holding the line" the reason he died is because he is clearly the obvious and only safe choice for the escort thing. Dr. I took Miranda and Jack with me to bomb the collector base. He was not with me but with the ground team. I was on normal since I'm new to the Mass Effect Franchise. But I have every single character except Mordin to choose from, because he escorted the crew back to the Normandy. . Durr hurr, no, he wasn't loyal and I'm confused about why he died. I'm playing through the Mass Effect Trilogy on PS3. 1 A Specific Series Of Actions Prevents His Death In Mass Effect 3If the player doesn’t send an escort at all, the crew will die. (While this death takes longer, I don't think I need to examine why it's worse)I just completed Mass Effect 2 and mine threw up a bit of a strange conclusion for me =$ I had ALL ship upgrades and had everyone loyal except Jacob ( he annoyed me so wanted to use him to die) I had; Miranda 1st Fire Team Legion Vents Samara as bubble shield Tali as the one to take. First time I only lost Mordin, and that’s because I overcompensated for protecting the crew by sending my biggest badass Grunt instead of Mordin. Not choosing an escort will get the Normandy crew killed. Miranda: Don't complete her loyalty mission and pick her as second one to boss fight. Unless you also want the crew to die here, don't pick Kasumi as you want her disloyal for ME3. This playthrough is gonna be the first playthrough where he survives. The only curveball thrown my way was that my entire normandy crew died because I was busy with loyalty missions. Mordin died holding the line, because it turns out he’s one of if not the most likely to die there. Forums Log in. I don't even like her, I find the character irriating. I replaying the entire mass effect trilogy as evil Shepard and right now I'm at the end of mass effect 2 trying to have everyone killed except Shepard and 2 additional squad members that are required for him to survive. But it's a point of pride to get the entire team through isn't it. Kills Miranda. I did his loyalty mission and all that, and I'm not really sure why he died, they just showed him lying on the floor. No idea on who is a good candidate to escort crew. The entire game Zaeed talks about how he is the only survivor in every mission he goes. He died a good death, I honestly think it fitted the story. PC PlayStation 3. The game could have easily decided to ambush that escort. I've done it. Mordin died; LaurensL 12 years ago #1. This is why it's best to take members like Mordin and Jack with you to the final fight and leaving characters like Grunt, Zaeed or Garrus to hold the line. When you go to fight the human reaper, if you don’t have the right people holding the line, characters can die and (so I’ve been told) it’s not always obvious. Final Fight Squad: Pick two loyal squadmates so they survive the clash with the Human Reaper. Zaeed because I had failed his loyalty mission and sent him back to escort the crew (figured they'd need someone tough). all except Jack are loyal. Mordin is a solid choice because of his low point value. Reply [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Mordin: Died curing the Genophage. When I had her escort the surviving members of the crew, she is. I hope you're happy, William. If you don't save everyone the first time then it's best to just replay the game. Mordin died in my suicide mission. I usually send Mordin back with the ships survivors. So last night I finished my Insanity ME2. because Miranda isn't a powerful enough biotic for the task, Mordin will die. Then Shepard looking at his coffin on Normandy. In my first play I replay the suicide mission when Tali died. For Mass Effect 2 on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Umm, ok, someone died in my final mission? *spoilers*". Last decision would be your team. I found Mordin's death the most jarring. Mordin has always lived for me. So as she is the only crew member not loyal she will be first to die if something goes wrong. A salarian (one of Mass Effect ' s alien races) physician and life scientist who was once a member of the salarian intelligence organization Special Tasks Group ("STG") earlier in his life, Mordin is depicted as a fast. I did all loyalty missions and Tali Died. He's not a carbon copy like most replacements are, his motives and beliefs are very well explored. He's literally #1 to die on the priority list during the Hold the Line segment. It's a standard dialogue choice during the suicide mission, after you find the crew. If you leave (loyal) tanks like Grunt and Zaeed with him, Mordin'll probably survive it.