The first time, Tali was my vent person, Jacob was the 2nd team leader. I didn't like the death scene for him in ME2 if he dies (it just shows you him dead), but I thought ME3 was interesting if you let Mordin die in ME2. I’m sad I lost Mordin in the suicide mission. I sent Garrus back to the Normandy with the crew. ALL Normandy crew died, but I went to help them as soon as possible. This subreddit is the unofficial forum for those who love the Mass Effect…So with Tali, Miranda, Mordin, Zaeed, Kasumi I'm going to try leaving Miranda, Mordin, and Tali to hold the line and hope they get killed. You want the average value of all the squadmates you leave to hold the line to be greater than 2. Kills Miranda. First time I only lost Mordin, and that’s because I overcompensated for protecting the crew by sending my biggest badass Grunt instead of Mordin. Turns out only Miranda and Mordin died, Jacob and Samara lived. Anyone who isn't chosen will hold the line. Then you explore his character, his incredibly sad biography, his difficult relationship with his estranged son, and all the things he wants to make right before passing away shortly, to the point being willing to die at the end of ME2 on a suicide mission: "Just to make the universe a little lighter when he leaves it. Legion: Shoot him to stop him transmitting to the geth. I've done it. Edited by Faust1979, 19 December 2012 - 06:40 AM. You will need to release several valves in the next few chambers before the meter empties, or your tech specialist will die. Basically the entire crew of the Normandy can die in the final mission of Mass Effect 2, including Commander Shepard if you don’t play your cards right. Use Mordin to escort the squad back, usually safest. he was just too aggressive without his right of passage. If a disloyal Jack escorts the crew (however many you left alive), those crew will survive to ME3 at the cost of Jack's life. I know that sounds like ass, but they have the lowest defense, and will make it more likely that your squad holding the line will start dying off. One part that got me: the cloud after Mordin cures the genophage over Tuchanka. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. After the battle, I see a shot of Mordin lying dead on the floor. The crew escort has a very simple check, which is completely disconnected from who you send: Do not send escort with crew: The crew dies. From: MrBucket | #091 I used those exact same assignments on both games. His death broke me - I did everything "right" but couldn't save him. Fextralife forums | RPGs, Elden Ring, BG3, Pathfinder, Nioh, Sekiro, Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and moreI usually have Mordin escort the crew back to the Normandy. Menu. Price_Of_Fame 13. send him back with the crew or have him in your final party and you'll be fine. As a squad member, if there's a pick for someone to die he's so far down the choices it's unlikely to be him. The second time I tried I used Legion in vents, Garrus as second leader both times, Grunt as escort and. true1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. I sent zaeed to escort the crew and took Garrus to the final fight so the hold the line score wasn't strong enough and he died. Zaeed because I had failed his loyalty mission and sent him back to escort the crew (figured they'd need someone tough). glitch possibly. Everyone points to this chart, but earlier today I did the suicide mission according to the chart and Kasumi died. Whoever you want, if they are. Chakwas. only for me to find out after i imported my character to ME3 that mordin died during the suicide mission. " - Page 2. “I’m giving Garrus what he’s always wanted—a Widow rifle,” Shepard warmly says. As for breaking continuity I sent unloyal Mordin off to protect the crew so I didn't actually see him die. Once I didn't recruit Zaeed and let Jacob (iirc) escort the crew. Funny thing is that I didnt even realized he had died, I just learned this during Mass Effect 3 when the characters started mentioning he was dead during the krogan arc. He was loyal, and that's what I really didn't understand. Guides. Why? :'( *spoilers*". This is why it's best to take members like Mordin and Jack with you to the final fight and leaving characters like Grunt, Zaeed or Garrus to hold the line. They should be more clear in that, I noticed he died, but it could have passed if I wasn't paying attention to the cutscenes. Edited by Faust1979, 19 December 2012 - 06:40 AM. Second Playthrough: -Jacob was shot in the head -Thane was carried off by the Swarm -Mordin died leading the diversion -Garrus lived and successfully escorting the crew back to the ship. No escort provided - all crew members die. Board. If you send a non-loyal escort, the escort dies and the crew members survive. Same resultEscort - Mordin, he’s a biologist genius right? So that means he’s a good doctor for the people who got kidnapped. :p. So it's such a nice ending if you send an unloyal Zaeed to escort the crew back to the ship. He already has an intimidating pile growing beside him and a very nervous guard standing by the purchasing console, eyeing it. Mordin doesn't have to die! Don't base krogan redemption off of one good squad mate. Everyone died except Miranda, Mordin, Tali, Grunt…If you send Mordin back with the crew to the ship and leave Garrus to hold the line you should be fine. Especially considering if Mordin died in 2, and got a funeral, all the other characters from 2 who died would need one. Menu Who died for you in mass effect 2? Thread. Wreav wants revenge for what the galaxy did to his people, which plays a key part in Mordin's decision in the third game. She will be turned into a Phantom and encountered and killed in the Cerberus base; Tali: Wipe out the Quarians so Tali kills herself. Every character has an invisible strength stat that affects their chances of survival when they hold the line while Shepard takes two squad mates to the final battle. More. I had not Loyal Miranda die after the human reaper fight was over. 1st game I didn't have Mordin's upgrade but on the 2nd I did. If you send Mordin back with the crew to the ship and leave Garrus to hold the line you should be fine. Hope that helps a little. only for me to find out after i imported my character to ME3 that mordin died during the suicide mission. Even having Legion in the fire fight, and deciding to keep the collector base; he gets off. Questions. I actually did send Zaeed to escort my shipmates (thinking a strong defender was needed at that part), but luckily I left Grunt and Garrus at hold the line (and took Mordin with me against the Collectors because of Incinerate), so everyone else survived. When does she die? How? I haven't even assigned her any special role, like team leader. Now Playing. Mordin- Sabotage the Genophage, shoot him (He regretted making the Genophage, when he went to undo his regret, he was shot dead by his own commander. You cannot spare any of your. " - Page 5. But I need to remove a character to make the Hold the Line score work out. It’s all mathematical, there’s an equation that works out if the crew holding the line has enough strength- how low that number goes decides how many crew will die, and there’s a set order in which they will die if that number is too low. If they are loyal, everyone. Pick any two loyal members. The Ascension — the asari dreadnought we saved — had a crew of nearly 10,000. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. If a disloyal Jack escorts the crew (however many you left alive), those crew will survive to ME3 at the cost of Jack's life. Mordin died while with the rest of the crew in the final moments after destroying the Proto-Reaper. Board Messages. Home. Question here. The hardest part might be Legion's Loyalty Mission. For Mass Effect 2 on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Mordin Survivability *spoilers*" - Page 3. This subreddit is the unofficial forum for those who love the Mass Effect…That works and Mordin returns from the dead. If you land anywhere else before going through the Omega 4 Relay, a large portion of your crew will die. i have done the final mission many times without people dying and did the same this time, got everyone's loyalty, put people in their correct roles for the suicide mission but for some reason, this time Mordin died and i have no clue why. =. Mordin almost always die if you use him for something other then escort and he must be loyal I used the guide given by 41 above and i was an engineer on normal lvl. Zaeed would have been worth two points, and since the only thing that matters when sending an escort back with the crew is their loyalty, you might as well send a weaker squad member. Miranda got shot, I believe. When Mordin went up to sacrifice himself after the run through the reaper, I just had to walk away from my computer adn get a drink. Q&A. wth??? then i read that he has a weak "defense" and to save him it would be best to have him escort the people to normandy or have him in. Escort provided, but the squadmate who is chosen to be an escort is non-loyal - crew members survive, escort dies. However, there IS a solution. An explanation is given here. Samara surviving is ok because she can die in ME3. . All but Garrus, Mordin, Miranda and the crew Tali died when the reactor blew up Thane died when a girder fell on him Jack got blown up by an oculus Legion died in the vents Grunt was carried away by the seekers Jacob died escorting the crew back to the Normandy. Mordin, Tali, Garrus, and Thane to my knowledge can be shot while. -council races and Tali. Mordin gets word that a Maelon, a former colleague, has been captured by a clan of Krogans and is being held on Tuchanka. Zaeed can’t die on his loyalty mission until after the suicide mission. So I had to use an escort. - send non-loyal Jacob as the crew escort (non-loyal crew escort will be killed) - take non-loyal Jacob to the final boss (non-loyal party members will die) For Miranda, three options: - send her into the vents - send non-loyal Miranda to. Oh well. Grunt dies, but Mordin lives. Features. I didn't upgrade the ship or really to many weapons at all. I had Mordin die on me holding the line. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. I understand the crew dying, I didn't know about the time limit so I ran around doing stuff before going through the relay. If the total is insufficient, squad mates can die. only for me to find out after i imported my character to ME3 that mordin died during the suicide mission. In my version, Mordin died after being shot, while helping Shepard close the doors on the Collector base, so I guess it was somewhat understandable, but then, at the very end, Shepard just finds Tali's dead body among the debris, before they leave the base for good. What you needed to do (reload an earlier save if you can). The retreat doesn't tell you that. Now Im going to play videos of Mordin. I have every normandy upgrade and everyone loyal…Who did you send to escort the crew back to the Normandy. He was not with me but with the ground team. That and the fact that for SOME REASON you HAVE to send Mordin with the crew in order to save everyone and him, less they/Mordin die. But I don't think everyone alive necessarily shows up in the cutscene so that's not necessarily inconsistent with your account. Yes -->Escort and crew survive If you send no escort, the crew members die. Maybe he did make it back to the ship and didn't tell anyone he was alive till I went back to Tuchanka. only for me to find out after i imported my character to ME3 that mordin died during the suicide mission. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. Otherwise, any loyal squad member is guaranteed to successfully escort the crew back to the ship. I hope you're happy, William. Why? I have done this many times, what did i miss? My team: Zaeed and Grunt Ducts: Legion Fireteam 2 Leader:Garrus Both times. Mordin is squishy, I think he's first to die at the final section if you don't have enough people to hold the collectors off. :/ You have to go get the crew straight away, even one mission will kill half of them. I picked the destroy ending so I also lost EDI I suppose. In fact, he may be my NO. You should also keep one or two of the other weak characters on your squad to further push the math into your favor. Send Mordin back to escort the crew. escort rescued crew: mordin take with me: tali and thane (leave everybody BUT tali and thane at the door ) hope this helps!! EDIT: also!! make sure that after you do the reaper mission, the ONLY mission you do is legions loyalty one. Send mordin as a crew escort to keep him safe. i did everyones loyalty mission, and after the suicide mission, it stated that everyone lived and no one died. Ending questions - why did they die?! (MAJOR SPOILERS) Mass Effect 2 Xbox 360 . Hope that helps a little. Mordin always seems to be the one to die even though I have full squad support and I think I make the right decisions. I reloaded and took him and. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. Normally he chooses to blow himself up in ME:3 to cure the genophage, but this playthrough I did all the steps needed to save Mordin and still get the Krogan support (Wrex. However, there IS a solution. Killing him ensures that he does not become the leader of clan Urdnot in Mass Effect 2, and the position will instead go to his brother, Wreav. Mordin, Zaeed, Grunt, Samara, Jack, Thane, Kasumi and Legion are not viable. Send him to escort the crew back at the normandy, and take only one between Garrus Zaeed or Grunt with you at the final battle ReplyOk, so for the ME2 ending, for everyone to survive, obviously you need to have everyone loyal and fully upgrade your ship and squad abilities. :/ You have to go get the crew straight away, even one mission will kill half of them. For recruiting as little people as possible: I know you dont have to open Grunt's tank, you dont have to reactivate Legion, you can skip Tali, and Zaeed is unnecessary since he is. Therefore it's best to send him back with the crew. [Edit] Ok, problem has been solved, thanks to everyone who helped. Hello, so I recently finished ME2 and I am shocked about death of my favourite Salarian. He didn't get to know his squad that well, choosing to stay detached and professional. I was crying inconsolably and completely unintelligible. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. Reply more reply. Done. Khalisah: But surely the human cost— Shepard: The Alliance lost eight cruisers. ) If you send Mordin back (or another who adds. Escort The first time I was a bastard and didn't sen anyone back, so my crew died. He was the. 2 - Mordin died - despite being loyal. . Register. The second time I tried I used Legion in vents, Garrus as second leader both times, Grunt as. Garrus handles both fire teams Kasumi or Mordin handles the escort. Futhermore, Grunt, Zaeed, and Garrus are the three you want holding the line the most. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Mordin is squishy, I think he's first to die at the final section if you don't have enough people to hold the collectors off. Really, that's my bad; he wasn't prepared for it. More. So as she is the only crew member not loyal she will be first to die if something goes wrong. Taking them with you to the final battle tends to get people killed. I kind of expected Miranda to die since she was mad I took Jack's side over hers and never reconciled when I made her the final specialist. Let me tell you just how fucking shocked I was that I didn’t lose anyone. After this I believe is a waves section like in the collector. wth??? then i read that he has a weak "defense" and to save him it would be best to have him escort the people to normandy or have him in. Don't take a disloyal person to the final battle. He was loyal and I don't know why he died. Thankfully she survived. (spoilers?)". . I strongly advise not letting Garrus Tali Mordin die, as they are playable characters in mass effect 3 with cool story arcs (maybe Legion as well I m not sure anymore) the rest are more Expendables 😀. Why? I have done this many times, what did i miss? My team: Zaeed and Grunt Ducts: Legion Fireteam 2 Leader:Garrus Both times. Died on my end game? i have everyones loyalty and chose the best people for the individual jobs. I got my paragon's entire crew through, but since I was on insanity I didn't have Grunt's loyalty, and he died bringing the rest of the crew to the ship (I sent him on that because I knew he would die on. The 2 additional squad members that I want to keep alive is Zaeed and Morinth because I can kill Zaeed in his loyalty mission. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. 1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. As a squad member, if there's a pick for someone to die he's so far down the choices it's unlikely to be him. Oh my heart - it still gets me, a decade later. 0 average, they are deadweight at hold the line portion. Final Squad Selection. Favorite Boards. Leave Garrus, Grunt and Zaeed behind on the Hold the Line segment. Ideal: Mordin. For Mordin, it sounds like you took either Garrus, Zaeed or Grunt (or two of those three) to the final boss and left Mordin on the line. That second line is really cool because it's foreshadowing for the best way to keep Mordin alive. Jack was the obvious choice, so I lost Garrus there. More people are likely to die in the separate squad if the squad's combat strength is low (a hidden score), which you can influence most by bringing a non-loyal grunt and zaeed with you to die - their combat strengths are highest. Edit A good solution, for me, would've been having to keep choosing between two characters in the suicide mission: One would die and one would live. Invest, invest, invest1 - Half of the Normandy crew - including Kelly, Ken and Gabi - became reaper juice. Next time, make Mordin the escort for the surviving crew members to guarantee his survival, and you should make sure you leave a lot of 4- and 2-point characters to hold.